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Look, I'm not going to lie. There's a guy in here, "Lockout", that makes this one of the least productive and most boring places to talk training on the internet, and no one can be bothered to ban him. Buyer beware. Arguments about minutiae. Ad hominems. Appeals to authority. Training #1.

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Postby NeilX » Sun Jun 18, 2006 2:13 am

ive actually been around some of these boards for a long time( ~1997 or 8), but i was the guy would lift for 3 months, then take 9 months off, maybe 2 years, because im a slacker, anyway, i was wondering what happened to some people.

i remember bob L, and shaf, dan88z (wait is he on this board?) and ketih wassung from back in the day who post here, thats about it i think.

what happened to..

adam ( and summer ) <-- first lifting website i ever visited!
jason FIG! < my second site
davin
cabel
DEF
jay the want - man of 1000 questions
cory - lionstrike
the truth
venerable one
warriorpoet
billybullrider
johnny juicer
those canadians that always TYPED IN CAPS
what was bagheeras speil? i cant remember
MLLnutrition
Big Bear
bryanSST
mike_from_mwf
carl weathers
iron grimm


thats all i can remember for now. do any of these guys post around today?

actually for all i know half of them coulda been trolls. i think weathers was.

i also cant remember why IBCOF split into UI. i think it has something to do with DEF.

someone should write a book about all that crap. one thing i remember, i think was from the 2 coming of UI ( before george the animal steele showed up! haha ) was some dude sent a picture of himself incline benching, but his mom and dad were behing the bench posing for a family photo or some shit. it was the craziest creepiest picture. its coming back to me now, 'holyoak'? discovered it was a photoshopped picture of him adding weight to achieve somethign like a 135 bench. help me out here, i know a lot of you guys have been around a long time. those were the days, when german volume triaing RULED the boards!
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Postby Canadian Bacon 2005 » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:36 am

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Postby NeilX » Sun Jun 18, 2006 5:36 pm

awesome thanks. dan is a cool guy, i remember he helped me out a few times. i remembered back when i first tried deadlifting years ago, i think i followed along with his instruction to jay the want. i think that was dan.
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Postby Shaf » Sun Jun 18, 2006 5:44 pm

adam ( and summer ) <-- first lifting website i ever visited!
-?
jason FIG! < my second site
?
davin
?
cabel
-everyone found out he was using anabolics.
DEF
-went crazy
jay the want - man of 1000 questions
-who knows? could handle being PWND!
cory - lionstrike
-to the Dungeon
the truth
-ditto
venerable one
-ditto
warriorpoet
-ditto
billybullrider
-ditto
johnny juicer
-ditto
those canadians that always TYPED IN CAPS
-GLEN, Gordie Torture, Madman Willis
what was bagheeras speil? i cant remember
-?
MLLnutrition
-?
Big Bear
-still has some board...think he went openly powerbear
bryanSST
-see above
mike_from_mwf
-?
carl weathers
-who knows? dropped outta site a few summers ago and never came back. he was a funny dude, though.
iron grimm
-graduated to the steroid boards
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Postby jaxzurr » Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:04 pm

Davin still has his site up and running well. It is Davin Bodybuilding and Fitness.

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Postby BLOBERT » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:28 pm

Davin's site:
http://pub16.ezboard.com/fdavinsbodybui ... itnessfrm1

Mike from the WWF is on the Dungeon.

Bagheera disappeared, so did Fig.

Big bear:
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Postby louburr » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:37 pm

no love for The Polish Hammer
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Postby NeilX » Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:33 pm

louburr wrote:no love for The Polish Hammer


i remember the hammer, he became one of the IBCOF mods when it started to die.

good to see davins still up and running, gotta love those before after pics.

oh yea, and what about RAINER?


Fig was awesome. i waybacked his old site:
http://web.archive.org/web/200106171507 ... index.html

i thought i remembered him posting a few times under his real name on the old P&B ezboard site. I use to email him a few times. he always took the time to answer back. i think he ran one of the first BBS - the 'insidetheweb.com' one?


Im not sure, but i believe Adams site was the first ameteur weightlifting/bodybuilding page on the web. Unfortunatly he was run out by haters. he also put pics of him and his wife up. bad move! i always figured he would show up one day on these boards HUUGE. I think for a lot of people it was the first bodybuilding site they visited on the web. just a normal guy, putting himself out there, advocating not doing 25 sets for arms. it was also the first time i heard of the 'captains of cruch'

http://web.archive.org/web/199901281436 ... gout/4143/
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Postby Blueshirt » Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:46 pm

I remember PH. I wonder if that's the same hammer that was on IronTrybe as a mod. I do not know if the IBCOF PH and IT PH were ze same guy. The IT guy is in NY. Friggin abbreviations.
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Postby ms316 » Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:12 am

Unfortunately, Big Bear's board is somewhat dead.
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Postby WildGorillaMan » Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:09 pm

Whenever these discussions about "whatever happened to" crop up, how come no one ever pours out a forty for Sean Toohey?

Toohey was an instrumental figure in the early days of HardGainer RoundTable, the old Old School Strength Training, and even the initial two versions of our board. His was a career filled with glorious examples of inter-net troublemaking.

*no one ever knew whether or not his obsessive preaching of the works of John McCallum (or Saint John, as he called him) was for real, or an elaborate put-on, like Boojum became infamous for.

*it was Sean Toohey (and not Paul Carter, as many believed) who instigated the witch hunt against Jeff Pitts for what many thought were ludicrous lifting claims. This is the origin of the word "caoch."

*speaking of witch hunts, Toohey was the one who first broke the news of the "shit smearing" allegations that continue to dog a certain would-be training guru. This allegation was one of several that were contained in a highly slanderous email from Toohey that circulated around the Iron Game early in the year 2000.

*also on Toohey's hit list were Maximum Bob (although the famous Shania Twain incident happened to Tony D'Amato), and Dr. Ken. While not solely responsible for the "fake plates" story, Toohey definetely fanned the flames.

Really, who here today can top these accomplishments in their inter-net career?
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Postby Wassung » Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:20 pm

Did'nt we once discuss putting together a board or a sub-section of this board dedicated to the history and preservation of internet lifting boards.

I cannot even recall when I came on board-
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Postby EricPhan » Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:12 pm

Why did Toohey turn on Kubik, Dr Ken, and Whelan? He used to write for the Dino Files and Whelan put him through the following workout -

http://www.naturalstrength.com/features ... icleID=503

Reading it, I can't help but wonder about the extent to which Whelan's one-set-to-failure, machine workout protocol is based on generating a higher amount of customer workouts in a day, like the Curves for Women gym chain.

Sean Toohey was one of my favorite authors when I discovered Cyberpump way back in fall 2000. His best writings, in my opinion, are still the anti-Bryan diatribes on Bryan Boorstein's board.
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Postby auraofpeace » Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:21 pm

Toohey also posted some fairly homo-erotic pics of his legs, in a "before and after" kind of thing on a board or two, then found religeon.
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Postby tonylaq » Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:00 pm

I never really understood the Paul carter/ Ryan B relationship. Trigg had some kind of argument going with Carter which finally ended some 3 pages of posts later with ...

PAUL IS FAT.

That set Carter off on another diatribe. I ended up using it as my quote at the end of every post till I got..

TONY I AM NOT FAT GAWDDAMMIT!!!!! KNOCK IT THE FUCK OFF!!!!!

Makes me smile to this day. :lol:

From the old HG I remember Danial B..The Bulkaholic. He was a big guy and an HIT guy to some extent. I always liked his posts but he seemed to disappear.
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Postby justltl » Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:02 pm

I thought that the story below was pretty good, even if he screwed up the Hendrix lyrics (it's Voodoo Child, not Voodoo Chile):

The Squat
By Sean Toohey
Posted on NaturalStrength.com on June 2, 1999
The Squat
By Sean Toohey

This morning, as usual, I was reading and answering email when this little question was posed:

"Where did you learn to squat? Did someone teach you or did you just learn from books?"

Ahhhhhh The Squat. All come pay your dues at the Squat Rack altar and benefit from the lessons! I actually learned to squat from years of squatting... styles I picked up from watching other people squat, reading about it, and practicing what I saw. Later in my lifting career I was coached by some excellent squatters, both in the powerlifting and Olympic lifting styles. That is how I learned to PERFORM a squat. The question never asked how I learned to perform a squat though.... It asked how I learned TO squat. Let me tell you a little story; I will do my very best to capture the essence of what it meant to me, and what I saw and felt. It was a truly magic moment in my life, and what I learned from it didn't really take root until years later. The following changed my life, once I realized what I saw...

I had been training (read: wasting time) at the community recreation center near my home with my boyhood amigo, at about 16 years old. Convinced that all I needed was time and more resolve, I pounded away on my last sets of triceps pressdowns and used the Arnold Mental Visualization Technique to see my arms as humongous mountains, bursting through the very walls of the workout room from their sheer size. Amidst the bantering about this technique or that technique, shared by all of us, and the occasional argument about who will win the Olympia, or whether Gunnar Rosbo actually DOES have the greatest arms, etc., in walked a man of about 65 years who was absolutely ENORMOUS.

Hardly a little old man, he stood just under six feet tall, and easily weighed in excess of 250 pounds. He wore a cut off sweatshirt and sweatpants, beat to hell sneakers and nothing else. His totally gray hair was matted and he was unshaven. He was the absolute antithesis to the pretty-boy image pushed in Muscle & Fitness, and he appeared to aggressively pursue that look. Unquestionably, however, he was a man who had spent YEARS involved with moving serious iron. Hanging out of his torn sweatshirt was a pair of the most massive arms I had ever seen, at least 19 inches, with a look that seemed as different as he did. Later I would learn that this difference was due to his strength. Although, being young and a slave to the mainstream muscle magazines, it took years before I absorbed what I was about to be taught.

The old guy introduced himself as Don. Just Don. No last name. He was exceptionally friendly, very open, and this was his first time in the rec center. He watched me finish up my pressdowns, on what must have been my 12th set, looked somewhat crookedly at me and struck up a conversation that summed up the essentials. It was the first time I ever heard, "If you want big arms, start squatting." He told me everything that the hardy souls of his generation knew about weight lifting: abbreviated workouts, plenty of good food, concentrate on the big exercises - particularly squats, and rest. I don't know what it is about youth, but I didn't listen. I finished my workout and I left for the day. In one ear and out the other...

The next few days came and went, naturally I didn't miss any of my 6 workouts per week, until one day I came in on the same day as Don. He looked intense and severe that day, so much so in fact that I simply stopped and watched. The image was quite a sight. This was a community rec center with bad lighting - which only added to the image I have of this monsterous old timer, with a deadly-serious expression, heading for the squat rack. Same clothes, same everything. Craig, my workout buddy, popped a tape of Jimi Hendrix into the boom box by the dumbbells and started to get ready for "chest day." I just watched the old guy. The bar was loaded to the hilt with heavy iron, his warmups were done, and Hendrix's "Voodoo Chile" started thundering into the little room...

"Well, I stand up next to a mountain, and I chop it down with the edge of my hand!" Hendrix screamed...

The old guy dropped under the bar and stood... it was the first time I ever saw a human so powerful he could shoulder a load that made the bar oscillate.

"Well, I stand up next to a mountain, chop it down with the edge of my hand!"

Don sucked in so much air I thought he would rip out of his sweatshirt... it was an awesome sight. His first rep he went so deep into the hole I thought he was sitting on the floor. Here were my friends and I, real tough guys we thought, doing quarter squats, and this enormous old guy was showing what it meant to go deep.

"Well, I pick up the pieces and make an island, might even raise a little sand."

Every rep was picture perfect. Deep, powerful and smooth like a piston. His sweatpants stretched at the seams down the sides of his thighs, he breathed deeply and powerfully with every rep, and the big wheels lining each side of the bar rattled that distinctive throaty roar and echoed Jimi Hendrix ....

'Cause I'm a voodoo chile, Lord knows I'm a voodoo chile, baby!"

After his 8th or 9th rep I figured he was done. Not Don... he was just getting started. Each rep lasted about 10 full seconds on the way up. He was oblivious to anything other than his set, and like a man posessed, he showed no signs of letting up.

"I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time, I'll give it right back to you one of these days. I said I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time, I'll give it right back one of these days." Hendrix kept jamming, Don kept squatting, I kept gawking.

The gym stood still and watched this scene at the rarely used squat rack, and somewhere inside of each of us, we realized why he was who he was, and why we were still small.

"And if I don't meet you no more in this world, then I'll, I'll meet you in the next one and don't be late, don't be late."

Don finished the incredible set, dropped and did some pullovers, then stood and wobbled to the door to leave. 1 hard set... then on his way home.

"'Cause I'm a voodoo chile, voodoo chile, Lord knows I'm a voodoo chile, hey hey hey" Hendrix finished.

Don looked at me right before he left, winked as if to say, "here endeth the lesson."

And there it did end. Had I listened to him that day, I would have been productive in training long before I really learned the lessons. But that was where I learned to squat.

And here endeth the lesson.
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Postby tonylaq » Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:07 pm

Damn...i remember that. Hardgainer RT i think.
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Postby Blueshirt » Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:40 pm

For quite a while, I thought FrozenKilt was Sean Toohey. Wrong Sean. That's what happens when you appear in the middle of the fun.
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Postby Kirk » Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:37 pm

justltl wrote:I thought that the story below was pretty good, even if he screwed up the Hendrix lyrics (it's Voodoo Child, not Voodoo Chile):


Um, you may want to check your Electric Ladyland record jacket on the Child vs Chile thing... You might be surprised.
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Postby stevewFF » Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:01 am

Kirk wrote:
justltl wrote:I thought that the story below was pretty good, even if he screwed up the Hendrix lyrics (it's Voodoo Child, not Voodoo Chile):


Um, you may want to check your Electric Ladyland record jacket on the Child vs Chile thing... You might be surprised.


Two different songs. Voodoo Child (Slight Return) is the one you hear all the time.
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Postby auraofpeace » Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:09 am

tonylaq wrote:I never really understood the Paul carter/ Ryan B relationship. Trigg had some kind of argument going with Carter which finally ended some 3 pages of posts later with ...

PAUL IS FAT.



I can't remember what we were arguing about, but it seems it might have been the time we were debating about whether or not female porno stars / naked internet chicks were happy or depressed.

Paul got mad at me on that one.
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Postby tonylaq » Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:23 am

i know! thats what made it so funny..he really got pissed. and the PAUL IS FAT comment had nothing to do with anything you guys were talking about.. it was out of the blue. well done!
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Postby auraofpeace » Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:15 am

my favorite inter-web arguement was IMGONNAKILU -versus - Ryan Bemont.

I don't recall what the fight was about, but the it ran about 2 pages along these lines....

IMGONNAKILU: ME WANT TAKE CHAINSAW TO HEAD OF PERSON WHO SAY SUCH THINGS AND MAKE BRAIN SPLATTER ON WALL.

Ryan Bemont: Let me make some empathetic statements and logical arguments for about 3-4 paragraphs....

IMGONNAKILU: ME WANT TO CHOP OFF HEAD OF BRYAN BOORSTEIN AND SAUTE' IT IN FAT OF PAUL CARTER AND THEN EAT FOR LATE LUNCH.

Ryan Bemont: Let me be sympathetic to your frustratio for a paragraph and then let me state a few points that may persuade you to see the other side.

IMGONNAKILU: ME AM GASSING UP CHAINSAW RIGHT NOW AND WILL SOON PAY VISIT TO RYAN BEMONT HOUSE LATE AT NIGHT.

Ryan Bemont: You know, there is really no call for such threats.
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Postby IMGONNAKILU » Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:17 am

WHO WAKE ME FROM SLEEP BY CALLING MY NAME!?!?!?!
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Postby tonylaq » Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:15 pm

hahahhaha!!!!! the saw is back!

that about the time i was trolling as JAN THE TRUE IRON FAN! who was actually a real guy i think.

it was always time TO KILL THE BUNNY MEN.

IMGONNAKILU is classic


ANDY DELETE THIS POST!!!
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Postby WildGorillaMan » Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:22 pm

tonylaq wrote:hahahhaha!!!!! the saw is back!

that about the time i was trolling as JAN THE TRUE IRON FAN! who was actually a real guy i think.

it was always time TO KILL THE BUNNY MEN.

IMGONNAKILU is classic


ANDY DELETE THIS POST!!!


That was you? I believe that at one point you/JAN threatened to "RAPE ME LIKE A SHEEP."
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Postby tonylaq » Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:59 pm

cant claim that one...at one point a few guys caught on the whole thing and started posting as JAN.
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Postby Matt Swanson » Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:18 pm

WHO WAKE ME FROM SLEEP BY CALLING MY NAME!?!?!?!



AAAAAAIIIEEEEEEEYAH!!

A classic troll. One of my favorite memories of the old board. Right up there with the (non-trolls) Stock Island and VINNY VAC.
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Postby justltl » Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:01 pm

Kirk wrote:
justltl wrote:I thought that the story below was pretty good, even if he screwed up the Hendrix lyrics (it's Voodoo Child, not Voodoo Chile):


Um, you may want to check your Electric Ladyland record jacket on the Child vs Chile thing... You might be surprised.



Electric Ladyland

Voodoo Child (Slight Return) lyrics:

Well, i stand up next to a mountain
And i chop it down with the edge of my hand
Yeah
Well, i stand up next to a mountain
And i chop it down with the edge of my hand
Well, i pick up all the pieces and make an island
Might even raise a little sand
Yeah

Cause i'm a voodoo child
Lord knows i'm a voodoo child baby

I want to say one more last thing

I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time
I'll give it right back to ya one of these days
Hahaha

I said i didn't mean to take up all your sweet time
I'll give it right back one of these days
Oh yeah

If i don't meet you no more in this world then uh
I'll meet ya on the next one
And don't be late
Don't be late

Cause i'm a voodoo child voodoo child
Lord knows i'm a voodoo child
Hey hey hey

I'm a voodoo child baby

I don't take no for an answer

Question no
Yeah




Voodoo Chile lyrics:

Well, I'm a voodoo chile
Lord I'm a voodoo chile

Well, the night I was born
Lord I swear the moon turned a fire red
The night I was born
I swear the moon turned a fire red
Well my poor mother cried out "lord, the gypsy was right!"
And I seen her fell down right dead
(Have mercy)

Well, mountain lions found me there waitin'
And set me on a eagles back
Well, mountain lions found me there,
And set me on a eagles wing
(Its' the eagles wing, baby, what did I say)
He took me past to the outskirts of infinity,
And when he brought me back,
He gave me a venus witch's ring
Hey!
And he said "Fly on, fly on"
Because I'm a voodoo chile, baby, voodoo chile
Hey!

Well, I make love to you,
And lord knows you'll feel no pain
Say, I make love to you in your sleep,
And lord knows you felt no pain
(Have mercy)
'Cause I'm a million miles away
And at the same time I'm right here in your picture frame
(Yeah! What did I say now)
'Cause I'm a voodoo chile
Lord knows I'm a voodoo chile

Well my arrows are made of desire
From far away as Jupiters sulphur mines
Say my arrows are made of desire, desire
From far away as Jupiters sulphur mines
(Way down by the Methabe Sea, yeah)
I have a humming bird and it hums so loud,
You think you were losing your mind, hmmm...

Well I float in liquid gardens
And Arizona new red sand
(Yeah)
I float in liquid gardens
Way down in Arizona red sand

Well, I taste the honey from a flower named Blue,
Way down in California
And the n New York drowns as we hold hands

'Cause I'm a voodoo chile
Lord knows I'm a voodoo chile
Yeah!




No?
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Postby stevewFF » Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:08 pm

One funny thing is even Stevie Ray Vaughn got it wrong. Fantastic as it was, he titled it Voodoo Chile instead of Voodoo Child (Slight Return).

One of my all time favorite songs. By Hendrix or Stevie Ray.
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Postby auraofpeace » Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:35 am

Well my arrows are made of desire
From far away as Jupiters sulphur mines
Say my arrows are made of desire, desire
From far away as Jupiters sulphur mines
(Way down by the Methabe Sea, yeah)


it is Methane Sea.
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Postby Blueshirt » Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:38 am

I TOO have an uncle.
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Postby El Pampero » Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:55 am

me two
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Postby Brian Amundsen » Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:53 pm

Where is PJ Striet?
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Postby Blueshirt » Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:19 pm

Where's Fred Fornicator?
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Re: whatever happened too...

Postby o1d_dude » Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:28 am

Thread necro...

12 years passes like nothing.

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Re: whatever happened too...

Postby BLOBERT » Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:03 am

Two people on the original list have passed away.
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miracle in the world than myself." - D.L.
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Re: whatever happened too...

Postby GTheo » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:24 am

BLOBERT wrote:Two people on the original list have passed away.


Which two?
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