HIT disappeared into the dust!!

Look, I'm not going to lie. There's a guy in here, "Lockout", that makes this one of the least productive and most boring places to talk training on the internet, and no one can be bothered to ban him. Buyer beware. Arguments about minutiae. Ad hominems. Appeals to authority. Training #1.

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HIT disappeared into the dust!!

Postby lockout » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:21 am

I just wanted to mention this guy's. I noticed this recently. This is how I know I'm getting old. Ask any guy in his 20's who's into lifting, and they don't have a clue what it is. They might think you're talking about HIIT. But they have no idea what HIT is, anything about one set to failure, who was Mike Mentzer, or any of those guys. They probably have no clue who is Dorian Yates, Brooks Kubik, or the Dog Crap guy.

What can I say? I don't know it that's a good thing or bad. Barbells still exist and they still work. Anyone who wraps their hands around a barbell, picks it up in different ways, and keeps trying to get better at it by adding weight and trying harder, they will get big and strong and probably have a good body too as long as their diet is in check. That's one thing I can say for sure.

But I also know that HIT works. I liked the early explanation which was simply intense brief and infrequent workouts. Wasn't that what a lot of old timers did anyways? Peary Radar did 2-3 workouts a week, some very abbreviated and as little as one set per exercise. Even Reg Park although a high volume guy, he still did 3 workouts a week. Three workouts a week was very popular back in the day.

So yeah, HIT works, always has. A lot of the older guys I know who are 55+, they trained HIT style and their still lifting and ticking and still strong. Of the guys who insist on lifting 6 days a week, I wonder how many will last and how many will just give up and turn into fat slobs, because they won't know what else to do.

Some pro bodybuilders also did HIT back in the day, guys like Dorian Yates and the DC guy. I think the main difference with their styles is that they were more geared towards split routines for full coverage for contest as opposed to abbreviated routines.

Maybe I'm more biased. But I really don't care which style you like best, if it's volume or what ever. But the main point of my posts was to discuss the history and mention what I noticed. HIT truly has been lost in the dust. Probably along with many other methods and terminologies.

Maybe they have the same thing, but different names. Look at the crossfit folks. There's a lot of popularity in some old school stuff these days.

Either way. I guess Brooks Kubik would call us dinosaurs.

Peace folks!!!
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Re: HIT disappeared into the dust!!

Postby Laconic Lifter » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:42 am

I was thinking about this the other day...
To the millennials, Dr. Ken is like Sandow or Saxon.
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Re: HIT disappeared into the dust!!

Postby GTheo » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:33 am

Laconic Lifter wrote:I was thinking about this the other day...
To the millennials, Dr. Ken is like Sandow or Saxon.


And Viator is like Milo of Crotona.
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Re: HIT disappeared into the dust!!

Postby stevein7 » Fri May 25, 2018 3:24 am

Maybe it is a case of money making. Its always a case of the next five minute fashion, big secret recipe. Milk it as far as it goes and move on. Not much in this fucked up world not dictated by money.
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Re: HIT disappeared into the dust!!

Postby Jughead » Sat May 26, 2018 2:01 pm

stevein7 wrote: Not much in this fucked up world not dictated by money.


Including socialism, comrade.
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Re: HIT disappeared into the dust!!

Postby NoShow » Sat May 26, 2018 3:33 pm

Laconic Lifter wrote:I was thinking about this the other day...
To the millennials, Dr. Ken is like Sandow or Saxon.


I had my Dr Ken t-shirt on at the (powerlifting) gym a couple weeks ago and none of the seven, under 30 yo lifters there, had any idea who he was or what HIT was.
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Re: HIT disappeared into the dust!!

Postby Chris McCarthy » Sun May 27, 2018 2:15 am

NoShow wrote:
Laconic Lifter wrote:I was thinking about this the other day...
To the millennials, Dr. Ken is like Sandow or Saxon.


I had my Dr Ken t-shirt on at the (powerlifting) gym a couple weeks ago and none of the seven, under 30 yo lifters there, had any idea who he was or what HIT was.


Small Victories...
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Re: HIT disappeared into the dust!!

Postby randygillett » Mon May 28, 2018 8:34 am

Chris McCarthy wrote:
NoShow wrote:
Laconic Lifter wrote:I was thinking about this the other day...
To the millennials, Dr. Ken is like Sandow or Saxon.


I had my Dr Ken t-shirt on at the (powerlifting) gym a couple weeks ago and none of the seven, under 30 yo lifters there, had any idea who he was or what HIT was.


Small Victories...

In that spirit, I guess you could say he was like Brad Castlebury without the muscle and faker weights.
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Re: HIT disappeared into the dust!!

Postby stevein7 » Tue May 29, 2018 7:44 am

Including socialism, comrade.

Complex my friend. There has only ever been one successful revolutionary attempt where the working class briefly came to power over a full territory - 1917. However that was based on the probable European revolution (in the midst of a massive war that had dragged on for years) and not on Russian conditions. The extension never came. The revolution degenerated and what emerged was a variant of capitalism where the state played the part of the capitalist class. This was fully acknowledged for what it was - state capitalism, but with the rise of Stalin, this was palmed off as socialism. This state capitalism was subsequently imitated all over the globe as socialism. All your critique of the USSR, China, Cuba, N Korea , Pol Pot etc etc I would share.

Socialism is moneyless. It is not a means for poor peasant economies to advance, unless massively aided. What we see today, the impending clash between China and USA is a capitalist clash. Another capitalist crime.
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Re: HIT disappeared into the dust!!

Postby Dr. Nick Riviera » Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:08 am

By 2025 HIT will be super popular again, but just re-branded for a new generation.

It's a way to get pretty jacked up (especially with anabolic help) only lifting 30-45 minutes a session, 3x per week.
Most kids just wanna look good, they don't have any qualms about taking steroids anymore and they're fucking lazy. So 3 workouts for 30 minutes a shot will definitely appeal to future generations. It just can't be called "High Intensity Training" its got to be "Maximal Optimization of Generally Applied Sports Specific Alpha Preparation Intensity Factors as relating to the Strength/Recovery Curve" or "MOGASSAPIFSRC" for short.
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